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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1047685</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I find sad is that by photoshopping this picture of Karlie they move the goal posts of what is realisticly possible.  The altered photo doesn&#039;t look disgusting and could even be seen as desirable; the general size of her is barbie-like, her arms are slim and minus dreaded bingo wings, she has breasts and the skirt gives her hips.  However, this is not achievable even by the lady herself!  By removing the protruding ribs and fading her collar bone people viewing this picture don&#039;t see the full reality of what being this size is like.  Very few people would agree that the original picture was attractive or want to look like that.  What the photoshopping hides is that that size and protruding ribs come as a package deal.

I wonder whether it might have been better to publish the photo ribs and all?  Some people are naturally that slim, although this is a very small minority of people, so I don&#039;t think they should be banned from public view.  However, surely what we need to do is include women of all shapes and sizes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find sad is that by photoshopping this picture of Karlie they move the goal posts of what is realisticly possible.  The altered photo doesn&#8217;t look disgusting and could even be seen as desirable; the general size of her is barbie-like, her arms are slim and minus dreaded bingo wings, she has breasts and the skirt gives her hips.  However, this is not achievable even by the lady herself!  By removing the protruding ribs and fading her collar bone people viewing this picture don&#8217;t see the full reality of what being this size is like.  Very few people would agree that the original picture was attractive or want to look like that.  What the photoshopping hides is that that size and protruding ribs come as a package deal.</p>
<p>I wonder whether it might have been better to publish the photo ribs and all?  Some people are naturally that slim, although this is a very small minority of people, so I don&#8217;t think they should be banned from public view.  However, surely what we need to do is include women of all shapes and sizes.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042975</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with pintrest for blocking the pro anorexia stuff! Anorexia is a mental illness, the girls suffering from it cant make a fully logical choice about what they are doing because they are acting outside of their normal thinking. 

Therefore the websites shouldnt condone it by turning a blind eye. 

As for the photoshoping more meat onto the model, thats probably because she looked awful with the ribs &amp; awful pictures dont sell half as many magazines as beautyful ones .

Vogue magazine are also going for a more &quot;slim but healthy&quot; look. they have finally cought on that women like looking at adds featuring other women of a healthy weight.  

And really, the only thing wrong with profit is that Im too lazy to follow its advice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with pintrest for blocking the pro anorexia stuff! Anorexia is a mental illness, the girls suffering from it cant make a fully logical choice about what they are doing because they are acting outside of their normal thinking. </p>
<p>Therefore the websites shouldnt condone it by turning a blind eye. </p>
<p>As for the photoshoping more meat onto the model, thats probably because she looked awful with the ribs &amp; awful pictures dont sell half as many magazines as beautyful ones .</p>
<p>Vogue magazine are also going for a more &#8220;slim but healthy&#8221; look. they have finally cought on that women like looking at adds featuring other women of a healthy weight.  </p>
<p>And really, the only thing wrong with profit is that Im too lazy to follow its advice.</p>
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		<title>By: peachgirl</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042922</link>
		<dc:creator>peachgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh double-egged sword this... To me, a 30-something confident woman I feel secure that a pinboard - virtual or otherwise- won&#039;t throw me into self-starvation but what&#039;s to say a 16 year-old girl isn&#039;t vulnerable to the message? I think editing out Karlie&#039;s ribs was a bad choice; if you are very thin chances are your ribs are protuding! When at my lowest weight [as an adult] I had bones poking out everywhere. It is important to show reality, not the airbrushed perfection. Skinny doesn&#039;t make you healthy or happy, but it&#039;s not so simple so just igonre all the skinny pretty out there; I find myself wanting to lose a few kilos every fall/spring when I see new clothes collections on slim girls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh double-egged sword this&#8230; To me, a 30-something confident woman I feel secure that a pinboard &#8211; virtual or otherwise- won&#8217;t throw me into self-starvation but what&#8217;s to say a 16 year-old girl isn&#8217;t vulnerable to the message? I think editing out Karlie&#8217;s ribs was a bad choice; if you are very thin chances are your ribs are protuding! When at my lowest weight [as an adult] I had bones poking out everywhere. It is important to show reality, not the airbrushed perfection. Skinny doesn&#8217;t make you healthy or happy, but it&#8217;s not so simple so just igonre all the skinny pretty out there; I find myself wanting to lose a few kilos every fall/spring when I see new clothes collections on slim girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Celine (McMademoiselleLikes...)</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042714</link>
		<dc:creator>Celine (McMademoiselleLikes...)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish people would accept others as they are, instead of someone arbitrarily deciding what looks good and what doesn&#039;t. 
I know a lot of people are angry when models/actresses are photoshopped to look slimmer, and say they should be accepted as they are. 
Ok, in this case why isn&#039;t the same reasonning applied here in Karlie Kloss&#039;s case? Maybe because we have this whole &quot;healthy is curvy - no to size 0&quot; thingy going on. I find the whole thing to be hypocrite, really. It&#039;s a bit like saying &quot;let&#039;s accept women as they are, as long as they&#039;re not skinny&quot;. 
I am a bit biased here as I am skinny (naturally I may add. I have the frame of a 12 years old boy, and my ribs do look like that when I breathe), but although nobody would ever go to an overweight woman telling her &quot;wow you&#039;re fat, you should really do something about that you look so unhealthy&quot;, it is &quot;acceptable&quot; to do it to a skinny woman. I&#039;ve lost count of the amount of perfect strangers coming to me asking if I had an eating disorder. 
For chrissakes, we all have different bodies and shapes, why not accept it and get over it? 
Rant over, sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish people would accept others as they are, instead of someone arbitrarily deciding what looks good and what doesn&#8217;t.<br />
I know a lot of people are angry when models/actresses are photoshopped to look slimmer, and say they should be accepted as they are.<br />
Ok, in this case why isn&#8217;t the same reasonning applied here in Karlie Kloss&#8217;s case? Maybe because we have this whole &#8220;healthy is curvy &#8211; no to size 0&#8243; thingy going on. I find the whole thing to be hypocrite, really. It&#8217;s a bit like saying &#8220;let&#8217;s accept women as they are, as long as they&#8217;re not skinny&#8221;.<br />
I am a bit biased here as I am skinny (naturally I may add. I have the frame of a 12 years old boy, and my ribs do look like that when I breathe), but although nobody would ever go to an overweight woman telling her &#8220;wow you&#8217;re fat, you should really do something about that you look so unhealthy&#8221;, it is &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to do it to a skinny woman. I&#8217;ve lost count of the amount of perfect strangers coming to me asking if I had an eating disorder.<br />
For chrissakes, we all have different bodies and shapes, why not accept it and get over it?<br />
Rant over, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042707</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jackie, I love your comment. Congrats on being &quot;recovered&quot;, and I agree with you about photoshop and the message it sends - that women&#039;s bodies, basically, are up for grabs, public property to be altered as is seen fit. Thankfully, I don&#039;t know any young girls (yick, kids) but I actually slightly disagree with you - I think we should be teaching our young women that it shouldn&#039;t MATTER how beautiful you are, or what your body looks like. There&#039;s just too much emphasis on bodies in general, and I would love to see a time when we focus on what women have to say and think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie, I love your comment. Congrats on being &#8220;recovered&#8221;, and I agree with you about photoshop and the message it sends &#8211; that women&#8217;s bodies, basically, are up for grabs, public property to be altered as is seen fit. Thankfully, I don&#8217;t know any young girls (yick, kids) but I actually slightly disagree with you &#8211; I think we should be teaching our young women that it shouldn&#8217;t MATTER how beautiful you are, or what your body looks like. There&#8217;s just too much emphasis on bodies in general, and I would love to see a time when we focus on what women have to say and think.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042564</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that&#039;s wrong. She&#039;s a young woman being told &#039;Your body is WRONG&#039; &#039;How you look is UNACCEPTABLE&#039;, ad bloody nauseum. It&#039;s just another brick in the wall of &#039;you don&#039;t decide what you look like, we do&#039;: a wall that is made up of people telling women to wear shorter skirts so they look sexier, longer skirts so they don&#039;t look like slags, not enough make up, too much make up, hijab, no hijab, too pale, too dark, and on and on.

The other not-particularly-sub-text is that young women are vulnerable, young women are prone to mental illness, young women need to be protected from themselves, etc, etc. yet we live in a society where we still throw our little girls to the wolves and expose them to real dangers yet don&#039;t help them develop the confidence and self-esteem to say &#039;no&#039; or to stand up for themselves when they are objectified for money (the children selling clothes to middle-aged rich women in Vogue) or sex (Jimmy Saville). We tell our daughters that they are defined through our lenses, not through their own, and that they can&#039;t be trusted to make their own decisions, then we wonder why they fight back by controlling their lives the only way they know how, and in the way that has the most impact. 

How about every woman on this website reaches out to a young girl they know, tomorrow, and tell them they are absolutely perfect and beautiful the way they are, whether they have bones or bum sticking out and that they are limited only by their hard work, not by what they look like and whether anyone approves of them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s wrong. She&#8217;s a young woman being told &#8216;Your body is WRONG&#8217; &#8216;How you look is UNACCEPTABLE&#8217;, ad bloody nauseum. It&#8217;s just another brick in the wall of &#8216;you don&#8217;t decide what you look like, we do&#8217;: a wall that is made up of people telling women to wear shorter skirts so they look sexier, longer skirts so they don&#8217;t look like slags, not enough make up, too much make up, hijab, no hijab, too pale, too dark, and on and on.</p>
<p>The other not-particularly-sub-text is that young women are vulnerable, young women are prone to mental illness, young women need to be protected from themselves, etc, etc. yet we live in a society where we still throw our little girls to the wolves and expose them to real dangers yet don&#8217;t help them develop the confidence and self-esteem to say &#8216;no&#8217; or to stand up for themselves when they are objectified for money (the children selling clothes to middle-aged rich women in Vogue) or sex (Jimmy Saville). We tell our daughters that they are defined through our lenses, not through their own, and that they can&#8217;t be trusted to make their own decisions, then we wonder why they fight back by controlling their lives the only way they know how, and in the way that has the most impact. </p>
<p>How about every woman on this website reaches out to a young girl they know, tomorrow, and tell them they are absolutely perfect and beautiful the way they are, whether they have bones or bum sticking out and that they are limited only by their hard work, not by what they look like and whether anyone approves of them?</p>
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		<title>By: *Aisling*</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042548</link>
		<dc:creator>*Aisling*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They did more than just photoshop the ribs too - the collarbone, the breastbone and I think maybe the arms too were altered]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did more than just photoshop the ribs too &#8211; the collarbone, the breastbone and I think maybe the arms too were altered</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042547</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who has &#039;recovered&#039; from a eating disorder (in as much as we ever do), I can honestly say images of thin people had no effect on me. Furthermore, what I look like has no bearing on my eating patterns: I&#039;m just not that visual. The starving, bingeing, purging and over-exercising was all about the numbers, and control. Using my will to make myself shrink was a cry for help, initially, and then simply a habit, not a desire to look a certain way.

Models and thin people were never aspirational figures for me: I wanted to be a writer. 

I started wearing make-up in my 30s, as a way of grounding myself in my body, of forcing myself to see my body as myself, not just as a carrier for me. It kind of works!

My point in writing this is to say that not all eating disorders and the people behind the labels are the same. Women&#039;s bodies should not be censored in case the mentally ill have a problem with them. It&#039;s also a culture-centric thing to do. As women, we shouldn&#039;t give away our right to be so that unelected groups of people (or even elected, come to think of it!) can decide whether we are acceptable. It&#039;s as bad to airbrush a woman&#039;s ribs as it is to airbrush her fat. Don&#039;t let internet Goldilockses arbitrate what&#039;s &#039;acceptable&#039; -- let&#039;s just make more of an effort to bring our daughters up with self-esteem to get through the early part of their lives in one piece!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has &#8216;recovered&#8217; from a eating disorder (in as much as we ever do), I can honestly say images of thin people had no effect on me. Furthermore, what I look like has no bearing on my eating patterns: I&#8217;m just not that visual. The starving, bingeing, purging and over-exercising was all about the numbers, and control. Using my will to make myself shrink was a cry for help, initially, and then simply a habit, not a desire to look a certain way.</p>
<p>Models and thin people were never aspirational figures for me: I wanted to be a writer. </p>
<p>I started wearing make-up in my 30s, as a way of grounding myself in my body, of forcing myself to see my body as myself, not just as a carrier for me. It kind of works!</p>
<p>My point in writing this is to say that not all eating disorders and the people behind the labels are the same. Women&#8217;s bodies should not be censored in case the mentally ill have a problem with them. It&#8217;s also a culture-centric thing to do. As women, we shouldn&#8217;t give away our right to be so that unelected groups of people (or even elected, come to think of it!) can decide whether we are acceptable. It&#8217;s as bad to airbrush a woman&#8217;s ribs as it is to airbrush her fat. Don&#8217;t let internet Goldilockses arbitrate what&#8217;s &#8216;acceptable&#8217; &#8212; let&#8217;s just make more of an effort to bring our daughters up with self-esteem to get through the early part of their lives in one piece!</p>
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		<title>By: littlesis</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042538</link>
		<dc:creator>littlesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, Rosemary. This whole area is really interesting, especially as a Pinterest user. 
While I don&#039;t necessarily think that banning images like these would rid the world of eating disorders etc, I don&#039;t think these help. 

I&#039;d also prefer not to see them while I&#039;m busy pinning my favourite cakes on a board!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Rosemary. This whole area is really interesting, especially as a Pinterest user.<br />
While I don&#8217;t necessarily think that banning images like these would rid the world of eating disorders etc, I don&#8217;t think these help. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also prefer not to see them while I&#8217;m busy pinning my favourite cakes on a board!</p>
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		<title>By: PinkPanther</title>
		<link>http://beaut.ie/2012/thinspiration-fitspiration-and-finding-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-1042532</link>
		<dc:creator>PinkPanther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I misunderstood this when I first read it and thought they&#039;d photoshopped the first image. She looks like a famine victim. I&#039;m pretty sick of the whole obsession women have with their weight. And I think posts like this contributes to it. And me commenting on it contributes. And so our ridiculous obsession continues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I misunderstood this when I first read it and thought they&#8217;d photoshopped the first image. She looks like a famine victim. I&#8217;m pretty sick of the whole obsession women have with their weight. And I think posts like this contributes to it. And me commenting on it contributes. And so our ridiculous obsession continues.</p>
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